What the hell?
Well now, here we have us another typical sheep. It seems,
that the majority of christendom is made up of these "milk
christians" and they are more of a laugh, than a witness
for their jeezus. Enjoy this one! My responses will be in BOLD.
- squirrel624: you ever going to answer? or just drone on is
vicar7: either one
vicar7: but what is your question
squirrel624: well i addressed a few things you said in the
room, seems as if you would not answer any of them....
vicar7: Oh what book right?
vicar7: I will be more attentive
squirrel624: is that how you chirstians deal with non belivers?
vicar7: been distracted here
vicar7: like how?
squirrel624: you invoked the design argument
squirrel624: i addressed that, you ignored my answer to it
squirrel624: can you prove the universe had a creator? let alone
your god as the creator?
vicar7: we need to be attentive answer questions but able to not
argue with them and cause them to hate us
vicar7: do it graciously
vicar7: kindly with respect
squirrel624: 1 peter 3:15 calls you to answer me, with humbleness
vicar7: even though we may not get respect
vicar7: agreed how am I doing
squirrel624: not very well, way to evasive
vicar7: give me a question?
vicar7: Let me have it
vicar7: I am prepared and even attentive now
squirrel624: can you prove the universe was created?
squirrel624: let alone by your god?
squirrel624: okay, so then, why use the argument?
vicar7: however logically if everything else have a designer it
is not a stretch to believe that the Universe had a designer
vicar7: logically right?
squirrel624: agreed, but then your designer needs a designer
squirrel624: and so on,
squirrel624: no special pleading "an uncaused cause"
vicar7: name something that was created that did not have a creator
squirrel624: in fact, if design needs an intelligent designer,
each designer would need a designer more intelligent than the
squirrel624: ad infinitum
vicar7: So are you a believer in Jesus
squirrel624: no, i am an athiest
squirrel624: there is no reason to believe in jesus
vicar7: It is my prayer that there will be someday
vicar7: we never respond til we see the need
squirrel624: there will be what? a reason to believe?
vicar7: the designer made us that way
squirrel624: you have failed to establish the existence of
squirrel624: what possible reason is there to believe in jesus?
vicar7: It is not my job to establish fact but to share Jesus
and make you think
vicar7: evolution take much more faith to believe actually
squirrel624: well i have thought, and there is no valid reason
to believe in jesus at all
squirrel624: do not assume i believe in evolution..
vicar7: Jesus died for your sin and has a better plan for your
life and mine
squirrel624: and how do you know that he died for us?
vicar7: because he said so and his Word is not only good history
but His Word
squirrel624: please dont say the bible
squirrel624: you are claiming the bible as historical?
vicar7: squirrel I will let you go now cuz I only spend so much
time down this road
squirrel624: or is it you let me go because you cannot reason
vicar7: however if you wish to email me firstname.lastname@example.org
vicar7: No just that I have to be wise how I spend the time
squirrel624: you can check out my faulty logic at www.squirrelsisland.com
vicar7: but I need to use my time here wisely
squirrel624: oh i see... the proselyzation of the word...
vicar7: arguing is often not that
squirrel624: we are not arguing,
vicar7: planting seeds
squirrel624: here you have the chance to back up the reasons
you attempt to plant seeds....
vicar7: based on what you have seen How does one become a Christian?
squirrel624: against a former christian, and more....
vicar7: kinda a survey
squirrel624: well you want the text book answer?
vicar7: tell how humor me
vicar7: Choose one
squirrel624: basically accept jesus as your personal lord and
squirrel624: southern baptist way...
vicar7: well you are getting the message
vicar7: that is good then you are accountable
squirrel624: no, you are mistaken, I know the christian speak
and the thought patterns but, still there is no reason to believe
vicar7: I work at a homeless mission
squirrel624: i told you i was once a christian
vicar7: share just that everynight
squirrel624: jesus is myth
vicar7: aah you just need to repent you walked away
vicar7: I did that for twenty year myself
vicar7: sad but true
vicar7: god will call you back
vicar7: he will give you a reason
vicar7: I will pray for just that
vicar7: You and I knew or in your case know the truth God will
or has in me case given us reason to believe in and trust him
squirrel624: ummm what part of "there is no reason to
believe in god " did you not understand?
vicar7: there will be one in the future God desire none to perish
squirrel624: no, if god did not intend any one to perish, then
there would be no reason for his strong arm salvation right?
vicar7: that is why Jesus came you know all this though
squirrel624: there is no proof for jesus coming anywhere
squirrel624: and i think you know this as well.
vicar7: i knew it for twenty year very stubborn
squirrel624: you believe it to be true, nothing more.
vicar7: who said my God my God why hast thou forsaken me?
squirrel624: there is no solid proof, that is why the christian
religion is a faith based religion
squirrel624: well when you read one of the gospels, jesus,
but when you read the others he said something different...
squirrel624: which is it?
vicar7: Actually not Jesus you know at least not first
squirrel624: plus, if jesus was god, then how could he forsake
vicar7: psalm 22 describes crucifixion 700 year before it happened
vicar7: Bible is amazing
vicar7: but you know this stuff
vicar7: Baptist know the Word
vicar7: even former Baptists
squirrel624: no it does not.----
squirrel624: if you would read the bible in the proper context,
you would see it is a psalm of lamentation, and not a prophecy
squirrel624: also you would know the translation of verse 16 is
like a lion
vicar7: cast lots for his garment
vicar7: lion of Judah
vicar7: lots of references to Jesus
squirrel624: again you fail to read the bible in context, there
is no messianic prophecy there in psalms 22...
vicar7: bible mixes current events with future all the time
vicar7: you know this stuffl and you will be held accountable
squirrel624: you cannot even read the bible in itsy proper
context, so how do you know i will be held accountable?
vicar7: God will put you in such a postition when it is clear
you must accept or reject his calling
vicar7: when he does you will know
squirrel624: tell you what, you give me a jesus prophecy, and
i will tell you whether or not it is one using only the bible....
how does that sound?
vicar7: whether you respond is a whole nother ballgame
squirrel624: wanna try the virgin birth?
vicar7: Isa 9:6 right
vicar7: I forget
squirrel624: yes 7 :14...but 9:6 is not one either
vicar7: my Bible program crashed
vicar7: but I do not bleame the devil for that
squirrel624: 9:6 is not one either
vicar7: just Microsoft some people think that is the same thing
squirrel624: jesus was never a king...
squirrel624: and he was not of the line of david...
squirrel624: sooooooo how was he of the line of daivd?
vicar7: if he was not then we have to throw the bible out
vicar7: but you know this
squirrel624: well, jospeh was not his father, his father was
"himself" so he is of another tribe, plus there is two
non jew women is his ancestry, which counts him out as being a
vicar7: not true then many jew would be messed up cuz they were
vicar7: Hitler definition was could not be SS unless you were
pure to 1750
vicar7: for an officer 1700
squirrel624: blood is traced through the mother.... tribe through
the father... by the blood of mary, he would not qualify as anything
but a jew even though there are non jew women in his ancestry
so he would not even count as a jew, as the blood of joseph..
he would be of davids line.. but he was not the son of joseph...
even if he was there is no less than two cursed men in his line,
that no one of their fruit would ever sit in the throne of david,
vicar7: like I said I wasting me time here
vicar7: you know what to do many do not
squirrel624: no, you just met someone who knows the bible better
than you do, and the religion as well.
vicar7: i need to be moving on
vicar7: you do not know the author
vicar7: but you know how to be introduced
squirrel624: which one? there are no less than 35 over a period
of 1500 years...
vicar7: many do not
vicar7: There is one that os God through the ministry of the Holy
squirrel624: nope... your HS is not consistant in the religions
of christendom either...
vicar7: Got to go
squirrel624: take care, and learn about your bible and god
a little more.
vicar7: you to may God and Jesus put in a postion to be blessed