The God of Terror.
Hello gentle reader, this chat is a chat piece that debated
about posting for a long time. I decided to post it after all
so you can see the twisted logic of the sheep when it comes
to tragedy. God can never lose it seems, and no matter what
does or does not do, he is right as rain and still full of love.
It went from the terrible act of terrorism to a free will debate
os a sort. I am the melancholy_banana.
- cam_man12: Jesus was there
cam_man12: something have to happen
melancholy_banana: oh really? and what did he do?
melancholy_banana: did he stop it? nope.
cam_man12: because sometimes people have to die
cam_man12: Jesus is always with us
melancholy_banana: shut up. Do not even talk to me ...... some
god Jesus is. No thanks.- Jesus allowed this to happen.
cam_man12: God also flooded the world, sometimes he has to do
stuff like that, think about, doesn't take a genius
melancholy_banana: look your god is a bastard, thanks for playing,.
cam_man12: no, he does these things because he cares
melancholy_banana: LOL get off it.....
cam_man12: so what do u believe
melancholy_banana: because he cares he kills hundreds of people
in an act of terrorism?
cam_man12: this act will bring us closer to the end times, it
had to happen, now God didn't want to kill those people but that's
what he had to do, he cares about the rest of us also, he loves
melancholy_banana: bullshit... god did not want to kill? read
your bible.... god gets off on killing.
cam_man12: I didn't say he wanted to, of course he didn't want
to kill those people but it had to happen, read what I type, I
never said he wanted to, duh
melancholy_banana: again I say bullshit. Your god knew from
the beginning they would die, he knew it,a nd allowed it to happen,
there was no other choice since he is all knowing, yet, he does
nothing... he ordained it to happen... your god wanted it to happen
cam_man12: no, he knows what is goin to happen but he gives us
FREE WILL, meaning we can do what we want, so no he didn't want
it to happen, but he had to let it happen so that everything would
work out in the end
melancholy_banana: nice try.... there is no free will, if there
is then your god does NOT know everything.
cam_man12: yeah he gives us free will but he knows what we r gonna
do, but he doesn't make us do that, it's in the bible
melancholy_banana: lol he knows what we are going to do...
aha I see. So then no matter what we do gods knows ahead of time?
melancholy_banana: then how do we have a choice in the matter?
no matter what we do, it is known ahead of time, we have no choice
in essence for god already knows the decision ahead of time.
melancholy_banana: we may have the ILLUSION of free will nothing
cam_man12: so u mean there is no freedom?
melancholy_banana: not if your god knows it all period.
cam_man12: what do u mean
cam_man12: it wouldn't be freedom if he controlled us but he doesn't
so thus we r free
melancholy_banana: if your god knows everything then, he knows
his own actions before he takes them, he does not have free will
either, and man does not for all the actions are known to god
before they happen. You may choose, but your choice in already
known to god. You have no "freedom" the illusion of
cam_man12: what u r sayin has nothing to do with freedom, we are
free, and how could god not be free there is no one who could
control him, just because he knows doesn't mean we aren't free
melancholy_banana: I see. So no matter what you do, it is known
to god, yet you still have free will and freedom of choice? you
no more free to "not" kill a person god knows you will
kill in the future.....
melancholy_banana: do you understand this?
cam_man12: r u smoking somethin
melancholy_banana: no you do not understand it, and it is very
simple, but I think it is due to Christian brainwashing.
cam_man12: no but u don't type correctly so I didn't understand
the sentence maybe u should type it again
melancholy_banana: OOPS you are right my fault... typed to
fast.... okay... you are no more free "not" to kill
a person in the future if your god knows you will do this, it
is not a choice on your behalf... god "knows" you will
cam_man12: so what if he knows than that doesn't mean that he
makes me do it
melancholy_banana: you do not get it do you? do "you"
have a choice in the matter?
cam_man12: what matter
melancholy_banana: do "you " have a "choice"
in the matter of what god knows to be a fact; you will kill a
person in the future.
cam_man12: yeah I have the choice to kill or not
melancholy_banana: you do? god knows you will kill this person
no matter what, so tell me how do you have a choice in the matter?
cam_man12: because I decide whether to kill the person or not,
and god just now my decision
melancholy_banana: are you serious? you will kill this person
"no matter" what, so tell me do you have a choice in
cam_man12: but how do u know that I will kill a person
melancholy_banana: you do not get it still do you? "I"
do not know, it is an analogy.
cam_man12: only god knows and I may want to kill somebody and
change my mind at the last minute, and god would know that was
cam_man12: yeah well your analogy sucked
melancholy_banana: look... god "knows" you "will"
kill a person....
melancholy_banana: yeah well your "free will" argument
sucks as well in fact it does not hold up at all.
cam_man12: and yours does, I am sorry but I won't feel to sorry
when I see u getting judged before Jesus and they drag u away
and throw u to HELL
melancholy_banana: so now you resort to threats because your
position is one of stupidity. Typical... please read James 1:26
cam_man12: no that was not a threat I was telling u what is going
to happen and how I am goin to feel, also which James 1 or 2,
melancholy_banana: lol James 1 or 2? that is funny
cam_man12: sorry my bad I was looking in john
melancholy_banana: aha okay
cam_man12: so what about that verse I only told u the truth
melancholy_banana: you told me what you "think" the
truth is, now prove it is truth.
cam_man12: it says in revelations (I think that is) that sinners
will be judge before Jesus and then throw in to the lake of fire
melancholy_banana: yes it is rev.... but you need to prove
it is truth, and not just what you think the truth is, the bible
is not reliable until you show it is
cam_man12: OK I we will see on judgment day then
melancholy_banana: I thought so.
cam_man12: that can either be my prove or my falling
melancholy_banana: you cannot back your basic argument, and
you cannot show you have the truth either...thanks.
cam_man12: how do u know that u have the truth
melancholy_banana: I don't, but I do not tell others as if
cam_man12: yeah well I think u r wrong on that
melancholy_banana: then show me how I am wrong then. I
just point out what people believe....and that I do not buy it.