I would love to talk, but I am a liar!
Here is Redwolfe_98, a wanna be JW. He has no clue about half
the stuff he talks about. The other JW's distance themselves
from this guy. As do the christians. We had a little talk about
the NIV translation of the bible, which will be included on
these pages, and it did not fair well for him. He had his ass
handed to him. My position was that the NIV was not a reliable
translation. As you will see below, Redwolfe really has no clue
either way it goes. And he is a liar, notice in the beginning
he would love to talk about the bible, and then later in the
talk he changes his mind, simply because I do not believe in
the bible. What him closely gentle reader!
- violent_cupcake: when shall we continue our NIV conversation?
redwolfe_98: hey cupcake..
redwolfe_98: I dont even remember the conversation but i would
love to have any discussion on the bible..
redwolfe_98: sorry i dont remember..
violent_cupcake: I think you do.
redwolfe_98: i do remember our talking though..
violent_cupcake: I was of the position that the niv was not
a reliable translation of the bible.
redwolfe_98: i am trying to recall if i know you by another name..but
i cant remember what it is..
redwolfe_98: but i dont mind discussing it with you..regardless
violent_cupcake: quadriplegic kittens, I am also the squirrel....
redwolfe_98: yes squirrel..
redwolfe_98: there are some things i dont like about the niv..
violent_cupcake: such as?
redwolfe_98: plil 2:6..
redwolfe_98: and the wording at the beginning of john i though
redwolfe_98: i dont have a lot to say about it...
redwolfe_98: usually people want to compare the nwt with the kjv..
violent_cupcake: I do not think it is reliable, it removes
to many verses, mis translates words, and actually downplays for
the most part the divinity of jesus and his blood,
redwolfe_98: can you cite a placewhere you think it has removed
the divinity of Christ?
violent_cupcake: hold on.......
redwolfe_98: i just like that it is base on the same text as the
NWT giving credence to the NWT
violent_cupcake: well to be honest, I think all translations
are not reliable, they are based upon copies of copies, not the
violent_cupcake: okay the first one that would downplay Jesus
is col 1:14 it removes through his blood....
violent_cupcake: john 3:16 read his one and only son, not begotten
redwolfe_98: well get a nwt..
redwolfe_98: i guess they didnt like the idea of Jesus being begotten..born
violent_cupcake: could be
redwolfe_98: when you speak of christ divinity, that apparently
can mean different things..
violent_cupcake: I would agree
redwolfe_98: the scriptures support christ being divine, but not
that he was the one true god jehovah
violent_cupcake: well, again I would disagree, mainly because
I do not hold the scriptures to be true.
redwolfe_98: i shoud study what the word divine means..
redwolfe_98: and whether you hold them to be true or not, they
do support christ's being divine
redwolfe_98: however, Jesus is gods son, not God
violent_cupcake: well I would agree on the Jesus not being
redwolfe_98: this discussion is confusing..you argue the niv does
not support christs divinity, and then say you do not believe
Jesus is God..
redwolfe_98: which is what i assumed is what you meant by christ
redwolfe_98: were you raised a catholic?
redwolfe_98: i guess you are anti-bible period..
violent_cupcake: well I am an atheist, and did you even read
what I typed?
violent_cupcake: while I find certain teachings of the bible to
be of value, i do not think it is a divine work
violent_cupcake: the removal of certain phrases points to the
lessening of the divinity of christ,
violent_cupcake: it also associates lucifer with Jesus
violent_cupcake: also keep in mind the argument is that it is
not a reliable translation, not just the point of the lessening
of the divinity of christ,...
violent_cupcake: I should have worded my initial position a little
violent_cupcake: still there?
redwolfe_98: i use the new world translation from the watch tower
redwolfe_98: i told you i dont have much to say about the niv..
redwolfe_98: i wish i could help you but if you have no appreciation
for god's word..
redwolfe_98: there is no foundation for discussion
violent_cupcake: why do i have no appreciation for it? because
I am an atheist?
redwolfe_98: violent_cupcake: while i find things of the bible
to be of value, i do not think it is a divine work
violent_cupcake: it seems if you are taking out a cop out
redwolfe_98: i am aware that is what you would think
violent_cupcake: you know, i could say that we have no foundation
to talk of, but since you are a JW, we cannot talk about this,
as you are deceived and have no real appreciation of the word
violent_cupcake: it works both ways.
violent_cupcake: and since the conversation is about how reliable
the niv is, not the divine origin of the bible in whole. Do you
redwolfe_98: I am not hung up on the niv..
redwolfe_98: or any other translation
redwolfe_98: but I daunt waste my time discussing the bible with
people who dont believe in it
violent_cupcake: aha, so in other words you lied to me before??
violent_cupcake: so you are a liar then?