Enoch died damn you!!!

  • okay, Didy is a sheep... and we all know how sheep sound! Another sheep that cannot read the bible. Enjoy! (My responses will be in bold text.)

  • didymuspope: Jesus is the only bing that was ever human that ascended up to heaven.. Elijah and Enoch did not go where Jesus is now..
    therefore_god_exists: didy?? are you sure about that?
    didymuspope: Yes I am sure,,, read John 3:13
    ekw516: yes didy,youre making an error there
    didymuspope: Hebrews 11:13 shows that Enoch indeed did die...
    therefore_god_exists: didy, what about ot scriptures that state enoch and Elijah went to heaven without dying?
    didymuspope: Enoch only lived for 365 years... see Genesis 5:22
    didymuspope: No Enoch and Elijah never went to heaven, they went up into the air, but not to where Jesus and the Father are..
    kith_spirit: didymus, that sounds like they're floating in outerspace
    therefore_god_exists: Heb 11:13 These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of [them], and embraced [them], and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth.
    therefore_god_exists: where does that say enoch died?
    didymuspope: Yes THESE ALL included Enoch..
    therefore_god_exists: didy, where does it say enoch died?
    didymuspope: ENoch is mentioned back in verse 5 of Hebrews 11....then set John 3:13 agianst Hebrews 11:13 and se how that makes sense..
    therefore_god_exists: Joh 3:13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, [even] the Son of man which is in heaven.
    didymuspope: Hebrews 11:13 says Enoch died.,..
    therefore_god_exists: no, show me the word enoch in hebrews 11 13 please
    didymuspope: Yes translated ..translated does not mean transformed or transfigured,,, translated means moved one from one place to another..
    therefore_god_exists: Genesis 5:21-23 And Enoch lived sixty and five years, and begat Methus= elah: 22 And Enoch walked with God after he begat Methuselah three hundred year= s, and begat sons and daughters: 23 And all the days of Enoch were three hun= dred sixty and five years: 24 And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him.
    didymuspope: God took Enoch where? John 3:13 says not to heaven...
    therefore_god_exists: 2Ki 2:11 And it came to pass, as they still went on, and talked, that, behold, [there appeared] a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, and parted them both asunder; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven.
    therefore_god_exists: didy the bible says you are wrong
    didymuspope: Enoch and Elijah did not ascend to heaven where Jesus ism, neither did anyone else who was ever humnan escept Jesus Christ.. John 3:13 proves it..
    therefore_god_exists: didy, so you call the OT a lie, I see.
    therefore_god_exists: 2Ki 2:11 And it came to pass, as they still went on, and talked, that, behold, [there appeared] a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, and parted them both asunder; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven.
    didymuspope: No i do not, but eh heaven 2nd Kings 2 tlaks about is the air we breath, not wehere Jesus and the Father are now..
    therefore_god_exists: the problem you have here is that you have pointed out a contradiction in the bible
    therefore_god_exists: didy show that they are different heavens..... verses please.

    didymuspope: Do you deny or fail to read John 3:13?
    didymuspope: There are 3 heavens mentioned in the bible..
    therefore_god_exists: didy i have read it. it contradicts the OT.
    therefore_god_exists: plain and simple

    didymuspope: 1) The air we breath, 2) the universes, and 3), Where Gods Throne is..
    didymuspope: Do you think Jesus was mistaken in John 3:13 or what?
    therefore_god_exists: didy, the bible says enoch and elijah was taken by god into heaven, you cannot get around this. sorry, it seems as if jesus lied in the john.
    didymuspope: Hebrews 11:13 says Enoch died, many churches so no, Enoch went to heaven.. I believe the bible, not many churches...
    therefore_god_exists: didy, you show me enochs name in the book of hebrews chapter 11 verse 13.
    therefore_god_exists: until you can show that, you are wrong. enoch was taken by god up into heaven, so was elijah... your jesus lied in the book of john.
    didymuspope: Oh so Jesus lied,,, very interstinhg, and I assume you are Muslim?
    therefore_god_exists: didy, nope just someone who knows what you bible says. therefore_god_exists: didy, that is because the bible is so messed up and ambiguous they have no idea what is what.
    didymuspope: Most churches also ignore the 4th commandment, they agree with Islam, Islam says the 4th commandment was done away with,, just when in the bible, did this ever happen??
    therefore_god_exists: show me enoch in hebrews 11:13 didy
    didymuspope: No the bible is not messed up, many peole who teach and preach the bible is messed up..ISlam is messed up even worse..
    therefore_god_exists: you cannot, because he is not there... he was taken by god into heaven
    therefore_god_exists: didy, i am not a muslim, i could care less what you think about islam
    didymuspope: Enoch did not go to heaven where Jesus is...neither did Elijah..
    therefore_god_exists: yes the bible is messed up.
    therefore_god_exists: didy, you cannot show that witht the bible.
    therefore_god_exists: you can only make the assertion.

    didymuspope: Neoither did any other human but Jesus CHRIST< and JEsus was changed before He ascended up to heaven the 2nd time..
    therefore_god_exists: didy, the bible says you are wrong
    didymuspope: I jsut did show it,, read John 3:13...
    therefore_god_exists: you cannot argue with your own bible didy.
    therefore_god_exists: didy you did not show anything,. i showed you the verses that show TWO people went into heaven without dying.

    didymuspope: DYing and going to heaven or a firey hell, is a manmade doctrine, it is not a biblical doctrine at all...
    therefore_god_exists: read your damn bible didy.

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